Sunday, 12 December 2021

Replacing the rear wheel bearings, brake, sprocket and tyre

 The original rear wheel ball bearings weren't of the highest quality and within 10000km they're toast. So I decided to replace them and bought a set of All Balls wheel bearings.

Honda CB500K1 rear wheel bearing
Honda CB500K1 rear wheel

Honda CB500K1 1972 rear wheel bearing
Honda CB500K1 rear wheel bearing All Balls

The hardest part was gonna be removing the rear wheel bearing retainer. It has 4 holes in which you put the pins of a special expensive tool. I wish I had one but no..
First I tried to hammer it carefully loose with a driver but it didn't move at all. Hmm, time for a DIY tool..

Honda CB500K1 1972 rear wheel
Honda CB500K1 rear wheel retaining plate

Honda CB500K1 rear wheel bearing
Honda CB500K1 rear wheel old sprocket

Honda CB500K1 rear wheel bearing retainer
Honda CB500K1 rear wheel bearing retainer

Honda CB500K1 rear wheel bearing retainer
Rear wheel retainer after some cleaning

 
Honda CB500K1 rear wheel bearing retainer
Rear wheel bearing retainer and orange old bearing

Honda CB500K1 rear wheel bearing retainer
Rear wheel bearing retainer

I took a piece of steel and drilled 2 holes in it at the same distance as the holes in the bearing retainer, put some bolts in it and secured them with nuts. The end of the bolts should fit into the retainer holes.


Honda CB500K1 DIY bearing retainer tool
Honda CB500K1 DIY rear wheel bearing retainer tool

Honda CB500 four DIY bearing retainer tool
 DIY rear wheel bearing retainer tool

After heating the retainer/hub and some hammering on the DIY tool the bearing retainer finally came loose. Remember the bearing retainer on the Honda CB500K1 is reverse threaded. There's also an arrow engraved to indicate this.

Honda CB500K1 reverse threaded rear wheel bearing retainer
Reverse threaded rear wheel bearing retainer, see arrow

Honda CB500K1 rear wheel bearing retainer
Finally..

Honda CB500K1 rear wheel bearing retainer
Close up...


Very often the thread is a bit damaged / crossthreaded but as long as it isn't too bad you can fix this with a tap of the right size. My tap and die set came with a handy thread measuring tool and in my case it was 1.0 metric thread. The trick is to slowly roll the right tap trough the damaged threads and most of the time they will get fixed.

Fixing cross threaded rear wheel bearing retainer
Fixing cross threaded rear wheel bearing retainer

Fixing cross threaded rear wheel bearing retainer
Close up

Fixing cross threaded rear wheel bearing retainer
Measuring the thread

Fixing cross threaded rear wheel bearing retainer

 

Now I had to remove the two bearings. This can be tricky beacause they're on both sides of the hub which makes it a bit harder to hammer 'em out with a punch. After heating the hub and bearings and some fiddly hammering the bearings still wouldn't move at all. I applied more heat but still no movement.I even tried it with a special bearing remover tool, still no luck

Wheel bearing remover tool
Wheel bearing remover tool
 

 Time for another DIY tool. I took a threaded rod and put a big thick washer on one side and on the outside I used a car exhaust mount which was the exact size to put on the hub and big enough to let the bearing through. On the other side of the hub with bearing I used a piece that was just small enough to go through the middle of the bearing but big enough to push on the spacer between the two bearings. Anyway, have a look at the pics...

Honda CB500K1 DIY wheel bearing remover tool
Honda CB500K1 DIY wheel bearing remover tool

Honda CB500K1 DIY wheel bearing remover tool
applying heat..

Honda CB500K1 distance collars rear wheel
Honda CB500K1 distance collars rear wheel


Honda CB500K1old rear wheel bearings
Honda CB500K1old rear wheel bearings out

I'd put the new wheel bearings in the freezer 2 days ago so they would shrink a bit and are easier to install. When you install them make sure you only put pressure on the outside of the bearing. I used a big socket and a thick piece of pvc pipe to drive the bearings in.

Honda CB500K1old and new rear wheel bearings
Honda CB500K1old and new rear wheel bearings

Honda CB500K1old and new rear wheel bearings
Old and new rear wheel bearings

Honda CB500K1 new rear wheel bearings in freezer
Honda CB500K1 new rear wheel bearings in freezer

Honda CB500K1 new rear wheel bearings installed
Honda CB500K1 new rear wheel bearings installed

Honda CB500K1 new rear wheel bearings installation
New bearing installed

Honda CB500K1 new rear wheel bearing seal
Honda CB500K1 old and new rear wheel bearing seal

The bike also needed some new tyres and I went for the Dunlop Roadmaster TT100 GP for the front and rear wheel. They have a nice vintage look.

Honda CB500K1 Dunlop Roadmaster TT100 GP
Honda CB500K1 Dunlop Roadmaster TT100 GP

Honda CB500K1Dunlop Roadmaster TT100 GP
Dunlop Roadmaster TT100 GP front wheel

Dunlop Roadmaster TT100 GP vintage profile
Dunlop Roadmaster TT100 GP vintage profile

Dunlop Roadmaster TT100 GP classic profile
Close up..

Dunlop Roadmaster TT100 GP front wheel
Dunlop Roadmaster TT100 GP front wheel
 
Before the new tyres were fitted I got rid of the rust on the inside of the rim and painted it with two coats of POR15 to prevent further rusting. It's pretty common to find rust on the inside of the rims..

Honda CB500K1 removing the old tyres
Honda CB500K1 removing the old tyres

Honda CB500K1 removing rust inside rim
Honda CB500K1 removing rust inside rim

Honda CB500K1 removing rust inside rim
Surprise old tape inside rim

 
Honda CB500K1 removing rust inside rim
Painting inside rims with POR15

Painting inside rims with POR15 Honda CB500K1
Painting inside rims with POR15 Honda CB500K1

With new brake shoes and a fresh rear wheel sprocket fitted as well the rear wheel is all done for now.

Honda CB500K1 rear wheel brake panel
Honda CB500K1 rear wheel brake panel

Honda CB500K1old and new brake shoes rear wheel
Honda CB500K1old and new brake shoes rear wheel

Honda CB500K1 installing new brake shoes rear wheel
Honda CB500K1 installing new brake shoes rear wheel

Honda CB500K1 installing new brake shoes rear wheel
New brake shoes rear wheel

Honda CB500K1 installing new sprocket rear wheel
Honda CB500K1 new sprocket chain set Tsubaki

Honda CB500K1new sprocket rear wheel
Honda CB500K1 new sprocket rear wheel

Honda CB500K1 new 34T sprocket rear wheel
Honda CB500K1 new 34T sprocket rear wheel

Honda CB500 four new 34T sprocket rear wheel
Almost done..:)


Sunday, 14 November 2021

Rebuilding the front fork Honda CB500K1

As I wanted to respray the frame of the bike, every part had to come off, including the front suspension. After removing the front wheel, front fender and brake caliper it's just a matter of loosening the triple tree bolts and pull the legs out...Easier said then done... The inner front legs didn't look too bad, minimal pitting, all straight, but when I tried to remove them from the triple tree the fun started.
Btw before you try to remove the forklegs, loosen all the bolts in the legs, like the top fork bolts, bottom allen bolt, drain plug bolt, etc.. It's way easier to do this when the legs are still hold by the triple tree.

Honda CB500K1 frame
Honda CB500K1 1972 frame

Honda CB500K1 front fork bolts
Honda CB500K1 front fork retainer

Honda CB500K1 front fork bottom allen bolt
Honda CB500K1 front fork bottom allen bolt

Honda CB500K1 front fork rebuild
Honda CB500K1 front fork rebuild

Honda CB500K1 removing front brake caliper
Honda CB500K1 removing front brake caliper

After loosening the triple tree clamp bolts that hold the inner legs in place I tried to pull them out but they wouldn't move an inch. I guess one of the previous owners tried the same before as both the fork top bolts showed evidence of hammering and other forms of abuse.
I drowned the ears/legs in WD40 and let it sit for a day or two... still no movement...

 Then I carefully used a chissel as a wedge on the triple tree clamps and hammered on a piece of wood on top of the already damaged fork top bolts. Finally it came loose and I could pull them out of the triple tree and fork ears.
Damn.. the inner legs were totally pitted and rusted at the area that used to sit inside the fork ears.
Luckily you can buy perfect reproduction ones and that's exactly what I did. 

 

Honda CB500K1 removing front forks from triple tree
Honda CB500K1 removing front forks from triple tree

Honda CB500K1 removing front forks from triple tree
Honda CB500K1 removing front forks from triple tree

Honda CB500K1 removing front forks from triple tree
Honda CB500K1 removing rusty front forks

Honda CB500K1 removing front forks from triple tree
Honda CB500K1 fork ears

Honda CB500K1 fork ears
Honda CB500K1 1972 fork ears

Next thing to do was removing  the old silver paint (what was left of it..) and corrosion that was on the lower outer legs. I used the grinder with a brush wire wheel. I used a vice to hold the inner front fork as I was gonna replace that anyway, and that way it was easy to turn the lower leg while brushing of the old paint and corrossion. Be very careful and don't push too hard as the lower legs are made of aluminium and are very soft. I held the wire wheel in a 45 degree position and the corrosion and paint came of nicely without damaging the aluminium legs.

After draining the old oil trough the oil drain hole by pumping the legs a couple of times you can take the legs apart. This is pretty straight forward, especially if you've already loosened the bolts and nuts before the removal of the fork legs.

Honda CB500K1 separating inner and outer fork legs
Honda CB500K1 separating inner and outer fork legs

Honda CB500K1 inner and outer fork legs
Honda CB500K1 inner and outer fork legs

Honda CB500K1 fork legs top nuts
Honda CB500K1 fork legs top nuts

Another thing that had to come out of the outher leg was the fork oil seal. After removing the circlip you can just pry it out with a screwdriver. (Be careful not to scratch the aluminium inside of the leg).However it didn't wanna move. The old Honda seals are known for their resistance when you wanna pry them out but these were extremely stubborn and after a couple of hours I gave up trying to remove it with a srewdriver.

Honda CB500K1 fork leg seal
Honda CB500K1 fork leg seal and snap ring

Honda CB500K1 fork leg seal circlip removal
Honda CB500K1 fork leg seal snap ring removal

Honda CB500K1 fork leg old seal removed
Honda CB500K1 fork leg snap ring groove

I grabbed some old parts in the shed and made a fork oil seal remover.
Start with a washer that's just a bit smaller then the oil seal and grind/cut of two sides. This way you can slide it underneath the metal lip of the seal. Mount the modified washer on a treaded rod with two nuts and slide it under the seal lip. The idea is to lift the oil seal out by srewing a nut on the other side of the rod. 

First of all you need to create some travel for the washer/seal/nut combination so the top of the seal can at least get flush with the top of the outer leg. I used an old Volvo 122S wheel bearing part but other bits will work just as well.
On top of that I put another piece of metal that's bigger than the hole. When bolting the nut on the treaded rod the modified washer will evenly pull out the stubborn front fork oil seal.

 

Honda CB500K1 fork leg old seal removal tool
Honda CB500K1 fork leg old seal removal tool

Honda CB500K1 fork leg old seal removal tool
Honda CB500K1 fork leg old seal removal tool

Honda CB500K1 fork leg old seal coming loose
Honda CB500K1 fork leg old seal coming loose

Honda CB500K1 fork leg old seal coming loose
Honda CB500K1 fork leg old seal coming loose

Honda CB500K1 fork leg old seal finally out
Honda CB500K1 fork leg old seal coming loose

Honda CB500K1 home made fork leg seal removal tool
Honda CB500K1 home made fork leg seal removal tool

Honda CB500K1 home made fork leg seal removal tool
Honda CB500K1 home made fork leg seal removal tool

Finally got them out. Time for some sanding and light silver two pack.
I know a lot of people say the front legs of a Honda CB500K four were originally polished and then clear coated but there's also people saying they were painted a very light silver and then clear coated or the silvery colour came from the zinc that was used when moulding the aluminium forks back in the seventies.... Hmm... I'll go for the light silver paint which looks cool and is easier to maintain then polished forks.


Honda CB500K1 reassembling the front forks
Honda CB500K1 reassembling the front forks

Putting back together the front fork legs isn't too difficult. Make sure you've got a socket or similar to tap in the new oil seals. The oil seals have a top and bottom. The side with the two inner lips goes in first. The text on the outside is the top. Before you start pushing them in make sure you put some ATF on the mating surfaces. Also be careful to put the oil seals in perfectly flat (not on an angle). The seal should go below the groove for the snap ring. Again make sure it's not in an angle..

Honda CB500K1 new oil seals front fork
Honda CB500K1 new oil seals front fork

Honda CB500K1 new oil seals front fork inside lips
New oil seals front fork inside lips

Honda CB500K1 new oil seals front fork text on top
Oil seals front fork text on top

Honda CB500K1 fitting new oil seals front fork
Honda CB500K1 fitting new oil seals front fork

Honda CB500 four fitting new oil seals front fork
Fitting new oil seals front fork


After fitting the snap ring I put the spring in the new inner leg and slide it carefully through the fork seal into the outer leg. Then torque the 8mm allen bolt with ca. 14lbs-ft. Don't forget the copper washer.

Honda CB500 four fitting new oil seals front fork
Fitting new oil seals front fork


Next step is making sure the lock nut at the top of the spring is all the way in till the bottom of the thread. Then fill the fork leg from the top with 160ml ATF and close the fork with the shiny chromed fork nut. Actually I didn't do that and wait with the last step until the forks are bolted back on the bike. That way it's easier to torque the big fork bolts to spec (ca 45 lbs-ft)

Honda CB500K1 new fork bolts
Honda CB500K1 new fork bolts 90123-323-010

Honda CB500K1 new fork bolts
New fork bolts and inner legs

Honda CB500 four new fork bolts and inner legs
Shiny

Honda CB500K1 ATF front fork legs
Use 160ml ATF per front fork leg

Just for fun and motivation I fitted the rubber fork boots and lamp ears :)

Honda CB500K1 front fork legs with boots and ears
Honda CB500K1 front fork legs with boots and ears

Honda CB500K1 front fork legs with boots and ears
Front fork leg with boot and ear

Honda CB500K1 front fork legs rebuild
Honda CB500K1 front fork legs rebuild